corrupt solictiors

Hi Arnie,

Not going to say much (most unlike me ) because most of it has been said already. I've read this thread with interest, if somewhat lacking in appreciation.

As I said to you in chat this afternoon, I think your basic argument/case is a valid one. When I pointed out that your presentation of said case will affect its reception, you replied that you didn't want sympathy.

Fair enough Arnie. You weren't getting any. But I'm seriously struggling to understand why, with such a valid point to make, you would immediately alienate your audience... I mean, if you are inciting change, then wouldn't it be more productive to adopt an informative/persuasive tone? Most of us reading this thread are not of the legal profession yet we make up the greater part of your audience. Which leaves me wondering... are you simply doing some posturing of your own?

Forgive me, the law is not my field. I speak only as someone whose profession is in the field of language and communication...

Shez

Not taking any sides here, nor painting either side with the tar brush, but I do think that a PROFESSION that holds so much 'Power' to make judgements and destroy peoples lives, should be beyond all reproach, whiter than white, else retire (not tomorrow, not next week, but today). This does not mean that I believe ALL solicitors are on the make, anymore than I think ALL politicians are on the take.

I am not a solicitor, nor do i work in any capacity related to the legal profession. I am however, a Professional. I belong to a professional body, for which I have to pay the princely sum of £700 per annum, just to continue practicing. If I make one mistake in my practice or paperwork (this can include omitting a serial number, date, even the most mundane fact whatsoever) I can be struck off and fined many thousands of pounds by the private courts run by the professional body to which I (have to) belong.

What would be the ramifications to my client, if I were to make a 'mistake' of this nature?. In pretty much all (and I mean all) instances - absolutely nothing!

Yet my profession continues to make sure it is beyond reproach - stringently!

Now I obviously didn't see the full narrative of the original post of this thread, but it does seem to me that if the individual concerned had systematically lied, misled and misrepresented him/herself, surely it would be every practicing solicitors desire to make sure this individual was punished (severely and with great expedience), thereby preventing other individuals making heated accusations on websites (websites such as Wiki that were not created for this particular forum)?

Just a thought.

This is a very good forum for an open debate, I am blogging it as such.


The are some very good posts that have raised the debate which is all I have wanted for a long time.

Please Please remember that I am a normal person and I am trying to bring to the attention of everybody a serious failing in the quality systems and checks and balances that govern our solicitors behaviour. I am using generalised attacks and I am being smeered by personal attacks. This affects ALL of us and in noway can it be described as a personal crusade. My case is unique as it has provable evidence of a quality systems failure, and for that reason I am prepared to put my NECK on the block and try and change things for the better.


I had buried a lot of this a long time ago, bearing in mind that this has been 2002 - 2008 and my children and family are in worse mess today then when we embarked on a SFLA divorce.


I have found a friend in this forum, who is going to help me with my spelling and grammar and moderate my anger in one final post, that I will be happy to debate.


One note to all legal bods: If the profession is so pure and perfect and my story cant be true, why did the government include the solicitors liability/responsibilities in the proceeds of crime act and why are wikivorce crusading to stamp this sort of behaviour out?????????? There has been corruption in society from the day we created society, so get off your soapboxes and DO SOMETHING

Update for the purposes of clarification:
Legal Bods refers as much to the pseudo legal experts as to the professionals.

No one has said that all solicitors are perfect. I work in the NHS and I can assure you that not all Doctors are perfect either, they also "close ranks" to protect each other.

There are many people on this site in distress who have no one to turn to when faced with marital breakdown, men and women who are homeless, penniless and bereft. There are men and women struggling to maintain relationships with their children who need the help of solicitors and the courts. Your endless criticism of the entire legal system is unhelpful and undermining. Yes, we should all be careful, we should all research and empower ourselves before putting our trust in any professional but we must not tar everyone with the same brush.

I find your attitude over the top, your last post was slightly more conciliatory but you still could not resist having another dig at the legal system. Whilst I feel some sympathy that you feel very strongly that you have been let down I would be very interested to know the other side of the story.

Moderator Note: personal remarks removed

Thank you for comments and I have a nurse friend in the NHS and I know what is like, targets and all.

The other side of it is personal and the issue that is being debated here is the honesty and integrity of the profession.

Perhaps we need a wikiNHS to allow the moderated whistle blowers a forum there.

Please read Mike's latest post in the general forum and you might realise that this site is not for the legal profession but for unhappy individuals whether they left or were left. Many of my friends and aquaintences are divorced and i have told them about this site - they have never heard of it . If the legal bods are engaging on this site they are not responding to you. Please just keep to the ethos of this site.

I am confining my activities to this string for that very reason. I am not posting ANYWHERE else on the site but here.
I go in the chat rooms and try and be polite and constructive. I am not sure that your interpretation of wikivorce is entirely correct, but you are entitled to your opinion.
Anyway thank you for your thoughts